[Jack-Devel] Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

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[Jack-Devel] Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Brian Hechinger
So my previous setup was a Creative Labs SB1095 and the nanoKONTROL2. The nanoKONTROL was showing up via the ALSA-MIDI bridge and I was using it to control Ardour.

I replaced the SB1095 with a Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 and now the nanoKONTROL no longer shows up as a MIDI device. The ALSA-MIDI bridge is running because I get the passthrough device in Claudia. The Audio6 doesn't show up as a MIDI device either.

The weird thing is when I first got the Audio6 I unplugged the SB and plugged in the Audio6 and it did show up as a MIDI device. JACK *really* dislikes having its audio device removed out from under it I noticed so audio never worked again after that. :)

I kept the Audio6 plugged in and rebooted. I got audio working but MIDI never came up on either the nanoKONTROL or the Audio6.

I'm completely stuck now and don't know what to do, please help!!

Thanks!

-brian

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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:39:50 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>the nanoKONTROL no longer shows up as a MIDI device. The ALSA-MIDI
>bridge is running because I get the passthrough device in Claudia. The
>Audio6 doesn't show up as a MIDI device either.

Hi,

you didn't provide much information, such as output from jack, output
of 'amidi -l', when no MIDI devices are available etc., however, any
chance that you are using Ubuntu Studio with kxstudio repositories and
your setup is done by Cadence?

What happens if you reboot without starting any layer, IOW without
starting any sound server at all, so without any bridges, too. Does

  amidi -l

list the MIDI devices? If so, start one "thing" after the other by
command line.

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Ralf Mardorf
PS: I forgot to mention that USB power could be a culprit, too. For
testing purpose use very short USB cables and/or an active USB hub, if
available. My new mobo is way more picky regarding USB power
consumption, than my old mobo was. You can't rely on USB
specifications. I experience a power issue with the first generation
of the nanoKONTROL. Since you replaced one device, power consumption
might be different with the new setup. Note, even devices that have
their own power supply could cause issues for USB power.

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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Brian Hechinger
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Sorry, no idea what details to provide. Open to suggestions. 😁

Yes, Ubuntu Studio 18.04.02 with the kxstudio repos and Cadence setup.

As things stand (already logged in and things started up) I see this:

wonko@deepthought:~$ amidi -l
Dir Device    Name
IO  hw:0,0,0  nanoKONTROL2 MIDI 1
IO  hw:1,0,0  Komplete Audio 6 MK2 MIDI 1
wonko@deepthought:~$

I'll try to reboot but I'll also try the USB power thing you mentioned in your follow up email. I just happen to have a Peter USB hub arrive today so perfect timing. 😁

Thanks!!

-brian
On Jun 22, 2019, 12:11 -0400, Ralf Mardorf <[hidden email]>, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:39:50 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
the nanoKONTROL no longer shows up as a MIDI device. The ALSA-MIDI
bridge is running because I get the passthrough device in Claudia. The
Audio6 doesn't show up as a MIDI device either.

Hi,

you didn't provide much information, such as output from jack, output
of 'amidi -l', when no MIDI devices are available etc., however, any
chance that you are using Ubuntu Studio with kxstudio repositories and
your setup is done by Cadence?

What happens if you reboot without starting any layer, IOW without
starting any sound server at all, so without any bridges, too. Does

amidi -l

list the MIDI devices? If so, start one "thing" after the other by
command line.

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2019-06-22 at 13:39 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
> Yes, Ubuntu Studio 18.04.02 with the kxstudio repos and Cadence setup.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2019-June/011434.html

;)

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Ralf Mardorf
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On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:39:00 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>wonko@deepthought:~$ amidi -l
>Dir Device    Name
>IO  hw:0,0,0  nanoKONTROL2 MIDI 1
>IO  hw:1,0,0  Komplete Audio 6 MK2 MIDI 1
>wonko@deepthought:~$
>
>I'll try to reboot but I'll also try the USB power thing you mentione

In my experiences, if USB bus power is the culprit, amidi doesn't list
the devices.
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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Brian Hechinger
So if amidi can list them why don't they show up in Claudia? I'm confused. 😁



-brian
On Jun 22, 2019, 15:04 -0400, Ralf Mardorf <[hidden email]>, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:39:00 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
wonko@deepthought:~$ amidi -l
Dir Device    Name
IO  hw:0,0,0  nanoKONTROL2 MIDI 1
IO  hw:1,0,0  Komplete Audio 6 MK2 MIDI 1
wonko@deepthought:~$

I'll try to reboot but I'll also try the USB power thing you mentione

In my experiences, if USB bus power is the culprit, amidi doesn't list
the devices.
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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:39:24 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>So if amidi can list them why don't they show up in Claudia? I'm
>confused.

I've got an Arch Linux and an Ubuntu install, but even for the Ubuntu
install I'm neither using UbuntuStudioControls nor Cadence.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls
https://kx.studio/Applications:Cadence

I would disable all autostarts and manually start one after the other by
command line, jackd 2 instead of jackdbus and then a2jmidid.

Keep in mind that issues are expected:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2019-June/011434.html

It was mentioned several times on the Ubuntu Studio mailing lists, that
there are problems with Ubuntu Studio in combination with kxstudio
repositories.
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Re: Korg nanoKONTROL2 and Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MIDI issues

Brian Hechinger
Huh, telling the ASLA-MIDI bridge to Export HW Ports fixed everything.

*shrug*

-brian

On 6/22/19 5:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:39:24 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>> So if amidi can list them why don't they show up in Claudia? I'm
>> confused.
> I've got an Arch Linux and an Ubuntu install, but even for the Ubuntu
> install I'm neither using UbuntuStudioControls nor Cadence.
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls
> https://kx.studio/Applications:Cadence
>
> I would disable all autostarts and manually start one after the other by
> command line, jackd 2 instead of jackdbus and then a2jmidid.
>
> Keep in mind that issues are expected:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2019-June/011434.html
>
> It was mentioned several times on the Ubuntu Studio mailing lists, that
> there are problems with Ubuntu Studio in combination with kxstudio
> repositories.
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