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erik m-3
La risposta tua è molto precisa .. non potevi spiegarti meglio...


Sono dei cazzoni .. !!!!

Non sanno lavorare ... ma però sta diventando un male comune lavorare in
queste condizioni ...
Perché non è il primo in 6-7 mesi che si propone con queste emerite
cazzate...

Ciao ci vediamo dopo


 
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Oggetto: Jackit-devel Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Ports names and aliases (John Rigg)
   2. Re: Will a newer tarball ever be released? (Jussi Laako)
   3. Re: Ports names and aliases (Francois.ernoult)
   4.  Again problem with scheduling priority (Chuckk Hubbard)
   5. Re: Again problem with scheduling priority (Dragan Noveski)
   6. Re: Again problem with scheduling priority (Chuckk Hubbard)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:50:33 +0100
From: John Rigg <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Jackit-devel] Ports names and aliases
To: "Francois.ernoult" <[hidden email]>
Cc: 'St?phane Letz' <[hidden email]>, 'JACK Developers'
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On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:54:27PM +0200, Francois.ernoult wrote:
> I think "track" and "monitor" roles correspond to 95% of the case,

Not necessarily. Those of us who mix down on an analog mixing
desk (not unusual in a studio situation) would also expect multitrack
outputs.

> and 100%
> of what you need to open a project and ear sound. In the current case you
> can't. Moreover it could be easy to let the user change the default
"role".
>
> What do you mean exactly by "new roles are added layer on"? What doe's do
> the current system in a similar case.
> I think other ports "role" than "track" and "monitor" can be put in
"other"
> and ignored by cross interface routing save. Those ports have 99% of
chance
> to be very interface specific anyway.

Personally I'd rather avoid having jackd decide in the background
what roles my ports have. I don't have a problem with setting
connections manually based on port numbers. I appreciate
that not everyone likes this, but how would you decide what roles
the ports default to without making it inconvenient for somebody?

John



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:42:59 +0300
From: Jussi Laako <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Jackit-devel] Will a newer tarball ever be released?
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
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Jack O'Quin wrote:
> What is the status of Mantis these days?
> I haven't been able to access it for ages.  Is it working for anyone else?

I've never been able to access it. Should we set up bugzilla or
something similar somewhere?


        - Jussi



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:04:52 +0200
From: "Francois.ernoult" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Jackit-devel] Ports names and aliases
To: "'John Rigg'" <[hidden email]>
Cc: 'St?phane Letz' <[hidden email]>, 'JACK Developers'
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Hi John,

> > I think "track" and "monitor" roles correspond to 95% of the case,
>
> Not necessarily. Those of us who mix down on an analog mixing
> desk (not unusual in a studio situation) would also expect multitrack
> outputs.

That's what I do when I can.
"Track" could be for output as well as for input.

>
> > and 100%
> > of what you need to open a project and ear sound. In the current case
> you
> > can't. Moreover it could be easy to let the user change the default
> "role".
> >
> > What do you mean exactly by "new roles are added layer on"? What doe's
> do
> > the current system in a similar case.
> > I think other ports "role" than "track" and "monitor" can be put in
> "other"
> > and ignored by cross interface routing save. Those ports have 99% of
> chance
> > to be very interface specific anyway.
>
> Personally I'd rather avoid having jackd decide in the background
> what roles my ports have. I don't have a problem with setting
> connections manually based on port numbers. I appreciate
> that not everyone likes this, but how would you decide what roles
> the ports default to without making it inconvenient for somebody?

I'm completely agreed with you but it doesn't seem that's the chosen
direction. If Jack has a mechanism to automatically reconnect ports no
matter which interface is used, it has to take care of the nature of each
port. I don't need my phones automatically connected to random tracks of my
project.

Regards,
Francois




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:40:57 +0300
From: "Chuckk Hubbard" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Jackit-devel]  Again problem with scheduling priority
To: jack-devel <[hidden email]>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hallo.
jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
2.6.22.1-rt9
Debian testing

I've just noticed that I am unable to set jackd priority on the command
line.  I have a script set up to use "sudo chrt" to change it, but when I
comment out that line in the script, jackd runs at 0 with schedule "other".

My script:
sudo chrt -fp 82 `pidof "IRQ-16"`
jackd --realtime -P 70 -dalsa -P -p256 -n2 -r44100 &
sudo chrt -fp 70 `pidof "jackd"`
chrt -p `pidof "IRQ-16"`
chrt -p `pidof "jackd"`
exit

If I comment out the second sudo chrt line, the last line returns:
pid 5032's current scheduling policy: SCHED_OTHER
pid 5032's current scheduling priority: 0
otherwise it is SCHED_FF and 70.

My kernel has:
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_DESKTOP is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_SOFTIRQS=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_HARDIRQS=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
# CONFIG_CLASSIC_RCU is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y

/etc/security/limits.conf has:
@audio         -     nice         -10
@audio         -     rtprio         99
@audio         -     memlock     unlimited

and user "chuckk" is in group "audio".

Lastly, the output from my script when the second sudo chrt line is
commented out:
------------------------------
pid 684's current scheduling policy: SCHED_FIFO
pid 684's current scheduling priority: 82
jackd 0.103.0
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details

JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
pid 5132's current scheduling policy: SCHED_OTHER
pid 5132's current scheduling priority: 0
loading driver ..
Enhanced3DNow! detected
SSE2 detected
apparent rate = 44100
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|-|256|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 256 frames, buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback

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Thanks!
-Chuckk

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:53:11 +0200
From: Dragan Noveski <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Jackit-devel] Again problem with scheduling priority
To: Chuckk Hubbard <[hidden email]>
Cc: jack-devel <[hidden email]>
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Chuckk Hubbard wrote:

> Hallo.
> jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
> 2.6.22.1-rt9
> Debian testing
>
> I've just noticed that I am unable to set jackd priority on the
> command line.  I have a script set up to use "sudo chrt" to change it,
> but when I comment out that line in the script, jackd runs at 0 with
> schedule "other".
>
> My script:
> sudo chrt -fp 82 `pidof "IRQ-16"`
> jackd --realtime -P 70 -dalsa -P -p256 -n2 -r44100 &
> sudo chrt -fp 70 `pidof "jackd"`
> chrt -p `pidof "IRQ-16"`
> chrt -p `pidof "jackd"`
> exit
>
> If I comment out the second sudo chrt line, the last line returns:
> pid 5032's current scheduling policy: SCHED_OTHER
> pid 5032's current scheduling priority: 0
> otherwise it is SCHED_FF and 70.
>
> My kernel has:
> # CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
> # CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
> # CONFIG_PREEMPT_DESKTOP is not set
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y
> CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_SOFTIRQS=y
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_HARDIRQS=y
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
> # CONFIG_CLASSIC_RCU is not set
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y
>
> /etc/security/limits.conf has:
> @audio         -     nice         -10
> @audio         -     rtprio         99
> @audio         -     memlock     unlimited
>
> and user "chuckk" is in group "audio".

this is a bit off-topic, but i think that the value 'unlimited' is not
accepted.
i had this some time ago, and than i found somewhere in
/var/lib/(messages) that 'unlimited' is a unknown value.

cheers,
doc
>

>
> Lastly, the output from my script when the second sudo chrt line is
> commented out:
> ------------------------------
> pid 684's current scheduling policy: SCHED_FIFO
> pid 684's current scheduling priority: 82
> jackd 0.103.0
> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
> jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>
> JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
> pid 5132's current scheduling policy: SCHED_OTHER
> pid 5132's current scheduling priority: 0
> loading driver ..
> Enhanced3DNow! detected
> SSE2 detected
> apparent rate = 44100
> creating alsa driver ... hw:0|-|256|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
> control device hw:0
> configuring for 44100Hz, period = 256 frames, buffer = 2 periods
> ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit little-endian
> ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Thanks!
> -Chuckk
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:06:27 +0300
From: "Chuckk Hubbard" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Jackit-devel] Again problem with scheduling priority
To: "Dragan Noveski" <[hidden email]>
Cc: jack-devel <[hidden email]>
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As far as being off-topic, Jack is not responding to the -P flag, I don't
think that's off topic.  Also, this is the list where I was shown how to do
all this before, and I was hoping some of the people whose advice I am
following would have some idea why it isn't working.  Strangely, I also got
a notice in French that looks like it says my post didn't get through to
some recipients... hmm.

I will check around in /var/lib, but I believe I have most logging turned
off.  Seems like there should be some huge but finite value that could fill
in for 'unlimited', no?
Thanks for the tip!

-Chuckk

On 10/20/07, Dragan Noveski <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> this is a bit off-topic, but i think that the value 'unlimited' is not
> accepted.
> i had this some time ago, and than i found somewhere in
> /var/lib/(messages) that 'unlimited' is a unknown value.
>
> cheers,
> doc
> >
>
> >
> > Lastly, the output from my script when the second sudo chrt line is
> > commented out:
> > ------------------------------
> > pid 684's current scheduling policy: SCHED_FIFO
> > pid 684's current scheduling priority: 82
> > jackd 0.103.0
> > Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
> > jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
> > This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> > under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
> >
> > JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
> > pid 5132's current scheduling policy: SCHED_OTHER
> > pid 5132's current scheduling priority: 0
> > loading driver ..
> > Enhanced3DNow! detected
> > SSE2 detected
> > apparent rate = 44100
> > creating alsa driver ... hw:0|-|256|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
> > control device hw:0
> > configuring for 44100Hz, period = 256 frames, buffer = 2 periods
> > ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit little-endian
> > ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Chuckk
> >
> > --
> > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com
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