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how does the package oriented distro behave?

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am on ppc
and have slackintosh12.0,debian-stable,debian-unstable,ubuntu7.04 on it
and yes slack is the only one i had to do make to get jack installed
so @ slack i edited the /etc/fstab as was said in the redme
and have:

Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda7              5.3G   1.8G   3.3G  36% /
none                   329M      0   329M   0% /tmp

as the result of df -H

on other distro it's goes like this;

debian-stable:

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5             4.0G  750M  3.1G  20% /
tmpfs                 315M     0  315M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev                   10M  108K  9.9M   2% /dev
tmpfs                 315M     0  315M   0% /dev/shm

debian-unstable:

Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5              3.2G   871M   2.2G  29% /
tmpfs                  330M      0   330M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev                    11M   111k    11M   2% /dev
tmpfs                  330M      0   330M   0% /dev/shm

ubuntu:

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda4             4.0G  2.4G  1.4G  65% /
varrun                315M   76K  315M   1% /var/run
varlock               315M     0  315M   0% /var/lock
procbususb            315M  140K  315M   1% /proc/bus/usb
udev                  315M  140K  315M   1% /dev
devshm                315M     0  315M   0% /dev/shm
lrm                   315M  268K  315M   1%
/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-powerpc/volatile

does this mean that i have to edit each /etc/fstab of other distro?
or are they doing it propery in their own way?


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Re: how does the package oriented distro behave?

David Causse
2g a écrit :
> does this mean that i have to edit each /etc/fstab of other distro?
> or are they doing it propery in their own way?
>
>  

In fact it depends on how you compiled jackd, you can see the path jackd
use for tmp by calling "jackd --version".

For me it's with debian :
jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16

and df is :
tmpfs                1014M     0 1014M   0% /dev/shm



You have to check if the tmpdir exists and if it's a tmpfs (sort of fs
directly in ram).
Jackd will work with its tmp on regular fs but you'll have better perf
with ramfs.

So I don't think you have to change the fstab for you other distro I
guess they are well configured, just check jackd --version.
And note that on some distro special fs like /dev/shm are not mounted
via /etc/fstab, this is done automaticaly at startup.

David.



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Re: how does the package oriented distro behave?

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thanks!

did the jackd --version for all distros and got

slackintosh12.0:
jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /tmp protocol 16
for
none                   329M      0   329M   0% /tmp

debian-ppc-stable:
jackd version 0.101.1 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 15
for
tmpfs                 315M     0  315M   0% /dev/shm

debian-ppc-unstable:
jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
for
tmpfs                  330M      0   330M   0% /dev/shm

ubuntu-ppc-7.04:
jackd version 0.102.20 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
for
devshm                315M     0  315M   0% /dev/shm

so
even though the Filesystem is named in several ways
(maybe i should rename them to tmpfs?)
it seems okay with mount point matching that of jackd --version

mmm but i wonder why debian stable (only) is using protocol 15....


On 7/26/07, David Causse <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2g a écrit :
> > does this mean that i have to edit each /etc/fstab of other distro?
> > or are they doing it propery in their own way?
> >
> >
>
> In fact it depends on how you compiled jackd, you can see the path jackd
> use for tmp by calling "jackd --version".
>
> For me it's with debian :
> jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
>
> and df is :
> tmpfs                1014M     0 1014M   0% /dev/shm
>
>
>
> You have to check if the tmpdir exists and if it's a tmpfs (sort of fs
> directly in ram).
> Jackd will work with its tmp on regular fs but you'll have better perf
> with ramfs.
>
> So I don't think you have to change the fstab for you other distro I
> guess they are well configured, just check jackd --version.
> And note that on some distro special fs like /dev/shm are not mounted
> via /etc/fstab, this is done automaticaly at startup.
>

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Re: how does the package oriented distro behave?

Eric Dantan Rzewnicki-2
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:46:58AM +0900, 2g wrote:
> thanks!
>
> did the jackd --version for all distros and got
>
> slackintosh12.0:
> jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /tmp protocol 16
> for
> none                   329M      0   329M   0% /tmp

maybe this is what you wanted, but I just noticed your slackintosh
compile is not using a tmpfs.

> debian-ppc-stable:
> jackd version 0.101.1 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 15
> for
> tmpfs                 315M     0  315M   0% /dev/shm
>
> debian-ppc-unstable:
> jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
> for
> tmpfs                  330M      0   330M   0% /dev/shm
>
> ubuntu-ppc-7.04:
> jackd version 0.102.20 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
> for
> devshm                315M     0  315M   0% /dev/shm
>
> so
> even though the Filesystem is named in several ways
> (maybe i should rename them to tmpfs?)
> it seems okay with mount point matching that of jackd --version
>
> mmm but i wonder why debian stable (only) is using protocol 15....

because it is an older version of jack and the protocol changed between
0.101.1 and 0.103.0.

-Eric Rz.

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oops this reply went to Eric privately ... excuse me for one more post

oh i just put that line in /etc/fstab manually
cuz i saw that in readme
none is making something wrong? just wasting swap in vain?
maybe i shoud repalce it with "tmpfs" and recompile jack?

On 7/27/07, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:46:58AM +0900, 2g wrote:

> > slackintosh12.0:
> > jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /tmp protocol 16
> > for
> > none                   329M      0   329M   0% /tmp
>
> maybe this is what you wanted, but I just noticed your slackintosh
> compile is not using a tmpfs.

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Re: how does the package oriented distro behave?

Jack O'Quin
On 7/26/07, 2g <[hidden email]> wrote:
> oops this reply went to Eric privately ... excuse me for one more post
>
> oh i just put that line in /etc/fstab manually
> cuz i saw that in readme
> none is making something wrong? just wasting swap in vain?
> maybe i shoud repalce it with "tmpfs" and recompile jack?

Make sure that /dev/shm is a tmpfs and recompile JACK to
use that.  It will become the new default now that most
distributions support it.
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Re: how does the package oriented distro behave?

Federico Grau-2
In reply to this post by David Causse
Hello Jack folk,

A couple of days back I submitted a patch to improve the jack documentation
(--help and man page) so it describes some of the new options to find the
path.

I have again attached it to this email, hoping it gets in.

regards,
donfede


On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:52:11PM +0200, David Causse wrote:

> 2g a écrit :
> > does this mean that i have to edit each /etc/fstab of other distro?
> > or are they doing it propery in their own way?
> >
> >  
>
> In fact it depends on how you compiled jackd, you can see the path jackd
> use for tmp by calling "jackd --version".
>
> For me it's with debian :
> jackd version 0.103.0 tmpdir /dev/shm protocol 16
>
> and df is :
> tmpfs                1014M     0 1014M   0% /dev/shm
>
>
>
> You have to check if the tmpdir exists and if it's a tmpfs (sort of fs
> directly in ram).
> Jackd will work with its tmp on regular fs but you'll have better perf
> with ramfs.
>
> So I don't think you have to change the fstab for you other distro I
> guess they are well configured, just check jackd --version.
> And note that on some distro special fs like /dev/shm are not mounted
> via /etc/fstab, this is done automaticaly at startup.
>
> David.
>
>
>
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